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The axle assembly work begins when the differential components are fully disassembled, cleaned, and ready for reinstallation. Instead, what you could do is to boost up the lubrication on the differential instead. I readjusted and measured the backlash without the passenger side oring and finally got it set, then removed the passside to reinstall the oring and turned it an additional 1. Anybody have any ideas as to what maybe going on back there and how i may stop the clunking. He said the same about the later model gears sets, said it could be done but a pita. Holden vz commodore 2006 161,500kms auto rego 3 months. Understanding and diagnosing rear differential noise. I have read and reread both the 5mt and 6mt procedures from the fsm a ridiculous number of times. Comes as pictured with the trailing arms, brakes, hand brake cables, drive shafts and fe2 springs. Tm 5380526024 differential backlash and bearing adjustment. The following procedure controls backlash and bearing preload. My eb has a shirtload of backlash in the diff and at slow speeds this is a bit annoying as you can feel it take up and somewhat bunnyhop. Diff backlash dave was the best and i had the opportunity to communicate with him directly as we both had nical hardtops for our 100s.

After these bearing preloads have been adjusted, its good practice to check the gear tooth pattern. The most important differential measurements and adjustments fig. The rear hoops are close to shot, checked the wear markers again this arvo in the sunlight and was surprised by the sight of an oily diff, fresh oil and plenty of dirty caked on stuff on the diff. The sweet spot for gm 10 and 12bolt backlash is between. On todays episode of daily transmission, dan and bad daddy braddy update the utes driveline by swapping rear. If original gears, carrier assembly and housing are used again, use the original thickness of shims 5 if any of these parts are replaced, install a shim. Suitable for all m78 differential vt vz v6 holden commodore. Autorestomod manic mechanic gasoline media 49,980 views. Your leading choice for differential parts and components. The transmission case has not been separated so i should not need to reset pinion depth. I had my vz v8 one tonner to holden for a diff noise it was clunking when i backed of acceleration a distinct clunk. Due to the wide range of housings and gears across the m78 differential range, pinion head and housingcarrier may need to be machined down for correct clearance. If backlash is greater than specification, use thicker thrust washer.

Or would you say not to do it yaself and take it to a pro ie does it take abit of practice and experience to do it right or is there ways i. Without backlash, the ring and pinion teeth can jam into each other and fail in a very short period of time. For many years the differential in my 1978 jaguar xjs has exhibited a slight whine after the differential oil has warmed up. He was a great source of info and helped so many of us.

Backlash between the ring and pinion gear is set after the pinion gear is installed and adjusted. The backlash can be removed, however what it then does is wind up the front diff to a point where it will want to keep driving in a straight line. The stock diff only has one thrust washer per side, so youll just need to get an additional one to add on the short trunion. If youre prepared to take the risk, you could look at getting a 2nd hand diff put in, find one at a wreckers or from ebayls1 forums etc and have the mechanic fit that for you. My vz 2005 holden randomly clunks at the diff head, i believe its a problem with the spline on the drive shaft, has anyone else had the same problem and whats invlved to fix. Change thrust washer thickness to obtain correct backlash. Motive gear performance products can often be found in the winners circle at nhra, ihra, andra, soda, score, and nascar events.

Lol, your starting to sound a lot like my diff guy. Repair of the differential is usually recommended to be left in the hands of professionals because of the complexity of the system. It is a manual 6 speed and its starting to get me concerned. If backlash is less than specification, use thinner thrust washer. Im looking for a procedure for adjusting pre load of the. This makes the gears expand, reducing the clearance between the meshing teeth of the gears. Get any dirt and grime removed and the surface cleaned and prepared for.

Im also getting a slight rear end nock when i select first. Drive train clunks in my vz crewman archive australian. Vz diff clunk, advice needed please just commodores. Shop for new auto parts at in the video, 1a auto shows how to measure the backlash and. To get a new diff do a proper reco of the diff would probably cost that much. Most of the backlash is probably from end play in the differential gears. Highperformance differentials, axles, and drivelines covers everything the enthusiast mechanic needs to know about selecting the most desirable gear ratio, rebuilding differentials and other driveline components, and. Install left thrust washer, clutch plates and side gear into differential case. Characters that you would like to be banned from death battle. May 16, 2010 backlash is the slop between the ring and pinion. Measure the backlash between the ring gear and pinion.

Episode 33 part 4 ford 9inch build using detroit truetrac autorestomod duration. Landcruiser drivetrain backlash motoring message board. Slide the shim pack over the pinion shaft to the shelf. Needing just one month to develop a new product and get it on to the shelf, compared to the sixmonth industry average. A miter gear differential has all three bevel gears of equal size. Torqueline torque lock lsd suitable for vt vz holden commodore v6, m78 series differential these differentials use a sophisticated design to provide a quiet, automatic splitting of torque. Differential parts differential components repco auto parts. All going well i should have a vl 6 cyl diff with 3. He took the car for 3 days and got the diff recod over night to a melb repairer a day to repair and on back to the mechanic and it was still going fine at nearly 100k when it was traded. The symptoms are classic for a differential pinion that, over time, has lost the factory preload settings. How to install a chevy and gm axle assembly and differential. They did a road test said they measured the back lash and it was within tolerance and normal i dont think so i checked the diff cover plate and it has never been touched, how do they check the backlash for tolerance give me the clearance setting without taking the the cover.

The diff is a borg warner m80 lsd with irs and i have it sitting on the bench. Rear axle shaft, wheel bearing, and wheel seal replacement. How to check backlash and pattern on rear differential 0914 ford. Highperformance differentials, axles, and drivelines. Vdiff safe climbing skills explained beginners trad. Unfortunately vlt diffs are starting to fetch higher dollars. For sale is a holden commodore complete rear adjustable k frame assembly with a good 287 lsd diff. How to set up ring and pinion rear gear set swap ford 9 overview tutorial tech installation duration. Vt vx vy vz v6 holden commodore torque lock lsd truetrac. If you are reusing the same ring and pinion gears and differential carrier, reassembly is relatively simple because the mesh pattern does not have to be reset so the shims remain the same. Differential side gear differential pinion mate gear differential pinion mate shaft differential outboard spacer differential bearing cup 14 item part description 21 differential bearing cone 22 differential bearing preload and backlash shims 23 ring gear screw 24 differential case 25 roll pin pinion mate shaft 26 rtv sealant. These were standard fitment to all 5l commodores vbvk and optional for 253. Apr 08, 2012 the diff is a borg warner m80 lsd with irs and i have it sitting on the bench. Side bearing preload is adjusted while performing the backlash check.

It is backlash in the front diff which is the cause. They perform like an open differential under normal driving conditions, automatically. Diff eyewear charitable sunglasses and blue light blocking glasses. If the backlash is too tight, the gears generate a lot of heat and burn up. Use the appropriate dye or marking compound to complete. This video covers disassembly of rear end and component inspection. Using washers, long bolt and nut, clamp side gear into differential case. Differential side gear backlash measurement youtube. Ensure pinion yoke remains seated while checking backlash. Weber state university automotive technology department transmission lab measuring transaxle front differential side gear backlash on.

The diffs are machined to give proper clearence backlash to the gears using the stock vw parts that you are reusing from your donor stock diff, so theres not any real set up. This procedure gives the same results for used and new bearings 1 fasten pinion housing 7 to carrier 4. It may take a couple of different placements to get it removed. Is it possible to reset the backlash of it, or am i to look for a new diff center. No rwc has locked diff with fresh oil still got the original plates on the car always looked after clean car fe2 suspension fitted and aligned bob jane has got all the books with it i am the third owner. Backlash is needed to allow for heat expansion as the gears operate, they produce friction and heat. Tighten the nut until you have 15 inch pounds of turning torque. The drive side of the ring gear is the side of the tooth that is contacted when the vehicle is accelerating. Oily diff archive australian ls1 and holden forums. Hey guys, had abit of a look around on the net with no luck. Simulations of gearbased systems including backlash. Diffchecker is an online diff tool to compare text to find the difference between two text files.

Holden sv6 vz noisy diff head motoring message board. The 80k service was done by an independent mech and he diagnosed it as a diff issue which may never get any worse but would never get any better. Gage set for setting differential bearing preload, gear backlash, and pinion position. Pontiac gto 0406 holden vtvz commodore billet rear diff. Apr 29, 2016 one of the first things many enthusiasts do after purchasing a new performance vehicle is set aside money to install a new shorter numerically higher gear ratio in the drivetrain. Ve vz commodore spark plug and coil pack replacement duration. In the diff and at slow speeds this is a bit annoying as you can feel it take up and somewhat bunnyhop.

Includes model range, engines, transmissions, safety equipment, crash testing, features and updates. What are your thoughts on low profile tires 70series vs the. Im onto my third diff in my vz crewman and im starting to get clunking noises from the drive train somewhere after driving for awhile and after you have been around roundabouts and corners. It is not noisy and is in good condition besides this. Is is backlash and is from wear of the crown and pinion in the diff. However, if there is any side or end play in the pinion or carrier bearings, then attention is needed. The diff gets rather warm on 50km trips not impossible to put my hand on but rather uncomfortable. As the advice has been repeated in much the same words on 3 different occasions by 3 independent experts, i have a tendency to go along with it. Take a seal puller, hook the inside of the seal and pry to remove the seal. Rust bubble under paint from a rock chip around windshield duration. Rear differential noise, when ignored, can lead to major problems and permanent damage on the ring and pinion.

This site includes a beginners guide, outdoor trad climbing basics, advanced trad skills and big wall aid climbing. Been researching on how to set preload of the side carrier bearings and set backlash. Rwd differential backlash noise diagnosis and fixpt1. May 15, 2006 backlash between ring gear and pinion teeth. How to set differential backlash may 11, 2012 this tech tip will speak specifically to setting up the differential, and specifically the back lash, in a midget converting to 3. If the backlash is too loose, the gears are clunky and noisy. Use our part finder to match your car and order online with our click and collect. Adjusting it to just right for a long life and quiet operation is the most difficult part of the repair. Now the diff is just the standard open center for the e series. The day has finally come when the crazy custom turbo commodore ute gets a set of upgraded diff gears. Limiting the scope to standard, offtheshelf gears it can be determined that there are. Pulling the diff out of the axle housing and checking the play is be pretty simple. Replacing a differential carrier, changing bearings or a ring and pinion can be a challenging process.